A Rogue in Ulduar – Flame Leviathan

This is part of a series of posts about the role of rogues in Ulduar.  The focus is on 10-man raids, but on occasion mention will be made about 25-man strategies as well.  This is not meant to be a general strategy guide.  It is completely targeted at rogues, their abilities, and their strengths in specific combats.  Much of what is written could apply to other melee dps as well.

If you are looking for a more general overall strategy guide, try Bosskillers or StratFu or WoWWiki.


flameleviathanFlame Leviathan is the first boss in Ulduar.  He is generally considered easy if you are not attempting one of the hard modes.  The entire lead-up to the fight and the majority of the boss fight itself are done in vehicles.  You won’t get to use any of your rogue-y abilities at all!

So why write a rogue guide for the boss?

There are certain roles that might appeal to rogues.  Particular vehicles are good for the rogue mindset.

The three vehicles are the Siege Engine, the Demolisher, and the Chopper.  The Siege Engine and the Demolisher also have seats for gunners.  So you have the option of five different roles in this fight.

Let me clearly state that any class can do any of these roles.  The only caveat to that is that the gunner in the demolisher should probably be ranged dps since they will get launched onto Flame Leviathan.  However, melee dps can do this as well.

The roles:

  • Siege Engine Driver:  follow right behind the boss as he moves (sounds rogue-ish).  Ram him from behind (hmmm).  Use Electroshock to interrupt his Flame Vents cast (like Kick).  Turn and use a speed burst to get away when he targets you (Sprint!).
  • Siege Enginer Gunner:  pure dps… fire Anti-Air Rockets to shoot down flyhing targets.  Fire the Steam Cannon at the boss to do tons of damage.  Use the Shield Generator (like a bubble) to protect the Engine.
  • Demolisher Driver: follow farther behind the boss and Hurl Boulders and Pyrite Barrels to dps the boss.  Turn and run when the boss targets you.  Periodically Launch your gunner onto the boss (you do have to aim – don’t miss).
  • Demolisher Gunner:  use Anti-Air Rockets to shoot down flying targets.  Fire mortars at the boss for good damage.  Pick up Pyrite Barrels for fuel.  Give your vehicle a Speed Burst if needed to get away from Flame Leviathan.  Load yourself into the catapult to be launched onto Flame Leviathan, where you will dps the turrets until they are destroyed.  Ranged dps is better for this since they can target both turrets.  Melee can only target the turret they are standing on.  Still, as long as you launch two people (and they don’t miss) melee can be effective.
  • Chopper Driver:  put down tar in front of the boss.  Do small amounts of damage with your Sonic Horn.  Pick up people who are not in a vehicle and heal them before bringing them someplace to get into a gunner’s seat.  This is particularly important when the people who dps the turrets get thrown to the ground.

As you can see, the role that is most rogue-like is the Siege Engine driver.  You dps the boss from right behind, interrupt his casts, and sprint away if he targets you.  A Demolisher driver is a pure dps role as well, but from range so it feels more hunter-y than rogue-y.  A Siege Enginer gunner does a heck of a lot of damage, but that’s basically all they do.

Again, anyone can do any role and I encourage you to try them allI enjoy the ones that feel most familiar to me.  I think I have been a Demolisher driver every time I have done this fight, because there are more people who want to be in the Siege Engine.

On 25 man the roles are the same, but there are four turrets on Flame Leviathan rather than two, and the people up there hitting them take damage so one of those launched should be a healer.  Sorry, rogues.

The 10-man version of this drops a real doozy of a trinket.  The Pyrite Infuser.  Look at that hit rating!  The only other rogue drop here is the Kinetic Ripper.

On 25-man, he has the awesome Mechanists Bindings which are best-in-slot for PvE.  Also available is Rising Sun – a good thrown weapon.


5 Responses to “A Rogue in Ulduar – Flame Leviathan”

  1. 1 Daraia
    June 15, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    I never thought about it like that but you are right…I ALWAYS want to be the siege engines Driver and have to fight the tanks for the spot.

  2. June 16, 2009 at 2:17 am

    Just a few quick tips that we found helpful when dealing with the leviathan:
    If you are fighting with two towers or less left standing, you do not need to launch anyone onto the leviathan.
    Simply make sure the demolishers stack their pyrite DoT up to 10 asap and keep it up.

    If you are going for 4 towers, leave the choppers unmanned and “preload” people into the demolishers.
    As soon as someone is loaded into the demolisher, someone else can take the gunners position, though they will be unable to use the abilities until the loaded player gets launched.
    Launch the loaded players as soon as the fight begins and keep launching someone whenever the stun wears off, if done correctly the people that parachute down from the leviathan can run back to their demolishers without taking damage.

  3. June 16, 2009 at 2:20 am

    Two more things that people often misunderstand:
    The oil spills created by the Choppers will NOT slow the leviathan, they will slow the plant adds that spawn when Freya’s tower is left standing, but only as long as the oil is not ignited.

  4. 4 Cat
    June 17, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Don’t chug a flask as soon as you walk into Uld. Firstly it makes no difference to your DPS on FL, and secondly you’ll lose 30 minutes off your expensive flask by the time FL is down.

    The easiest role for starters is probably gunner on the siege engine. Just remember that if your driver is close to FL when you get targeted, pop that shield fast.

    Our strat is for the person targeted to run on a long diagonal across FL’s room. This means that the chopper drivers know exactly where to put the tar, and it gives the targeted driver the best chance of avoiding FL’s major DPS. Driving about like a decapitated chicken when you get targeted is a good way to die and irritate your raid.

  5. June 18, 2009 at 11:24 am

    Thanks for posting those tips, all.

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