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Rogue Glyphs in Cataclysm

I was surprised to realize that I might actually use Glyph of Feint.

In Wrath, a strictly PvE player would never use Glyph of Feint.  Its been around, but really, how often would you use feint?  There was a time when Feint was more useful.  Certainly in Burning Crusade we used it to shed threat.  But in Wrath, tank threat seemed limitless.

Feint has served its purpose more than once.  When Ulduar was current, I never died to XT-001’s Tympanic Tantrum.  My Feint would reduce the damage, and keep me alive.  Similarly, Festergut’s big explosions were survivable with Feint even if I missed an inoculation.

But was it worth glyphing it?  Not hardly.

Lets see if Blizzard follows through on its promises.  If, as they have said, tank threat is lower, incoming party damage is higher, and healer mana is precious, then Feint suddenly becomes a useful part of our toolkit.  You can save healer mana by avoiding incoming damage and push dps without pulling from the tank.  These are familiar concepts to long-time rogues, but this skill was all but forgotten in Wrath.

Lets look at our Glyph options:

Prime

There aren’t a whole lot of tough decisions here because so many of those are specific to a particular spec.

For a combat rogue, you’ll clearly want Sinister Strike since that’s used so often.  After that Adrenaline Rush will probably have the biggest impact on your damage totals.  For a third, you could go with Slice and Dice or Rupture to make your rotation easier, or Revealing Strike for its damage bonus.  Killing Spree and Eviscerate are less attractive options.

For Assassination, the Mutilate and Rupture glyphs are pretty obvious choices.  Vendetta looks appealing at first, but mechanics are showing that the Backstab spam in the last 35% of a boss’ health is where Assassination is really shining.  Take the Backstab glyph in your third slot to boost that.  Don’t take SnD because your talents refresh that automatically.

For subtlety, Slice and Dice is vital to help smooth out the complicated rotation.  You’ll probably be using Backstab quite a bit as a combo point builder, as Hemo is proving to be a poor choice just as it was in previous expansions.  Take the Backstab glyph to help with that.  For a third glyph, its your preference between Shadow Dance or Eviscerate.  Don’t take Rupture, since your talents refresh that automatically.

Major

The choices here are not going to impact your damage, really.  They are meant to enhance your playstyle.  Go with glyphs that help with the abilities that you use often.

Lots of these glyphs give PvP utility.  However, most raid bosses are immune to things like Blind and Sap and the silence effect from Kick.  Here’s the ones that I’d recommend for PvE:

As I said at the start of the post, Feint is a good to remember f there are bosses with large raid damage phases.  If you find yourself using Feint with any regularity, then this glyph will keep it from disrupting your dps rotation.  (As a contrast, the Cloak  of Shadows glyph only reduces physical damage.  That would be extremely situational in PvE but very useful in PvP)

Sprint is a good option, especially on fights with a lot of moving or target switching.

Expose Armor is a nice choice if you’re the one applying it because you have no warrior to Sunder Armor.

The Tricks of the Trade glyph is an interesting option, which is exactly what a non-essential glyph should be.  At first glance, it seems to be for selfish rogues that can’t stand the thought of boosting someone else’s dps.  The real question is, does the removal of the energy cost boost the rogue’s damage more than the 5% decrease on the target’s damage?  If so, then it is a net gain in overall raid dps.  Theorycrafting seems to show that this is the case, in which case you would want to go with this glyph.  Its not a huge difference, though, so its not essential.

For the Major glyphs, go with the abilities that you use a lot and you’ll be fine.

Thanks to Elitist Jerks as always for putting the theorycrafting and testing out there for us.

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4 Responses to “Rogue Glyphs in Cataclysm”


  1. December 14, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Have you tried any of the new 5-mans yet? Going from Mutilate to Backstab is a bitch. Lol.

    • December 14, 2010 at 4:58 pm

      I’ve only done one, and I’m so out of practice that I completely forgot. lol

      I set up PowerAuras to flash at 35% health. With a little practice I hope to make it part of the routine.

      • December 14, 2010 at 9:39 pm

        Yeah, tell me about it. I’m having a hard time with it myself. I think it’s going to be a matter of setting up my addons, macros and keybinds right first. Then I’ll work on my rotation.

  2. 4 gaberra
    December 3, 2011 at 2:43 am

    oh wow… i can say: if ya need feint in cata, tank is a noob… =) i have both tankadin and C-rogue… still on 130% aggro on tank run, and no more than 75% on rogue (20-26k dps)


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